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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:43:02 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #889 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Tue, 9 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 889 Today's Topics: [Q] 10-10 info needed in 4 area Any recent Group A call signs in ITU region 7? Cost of a KHz? Cost of KHz? (re-visited) Ham Software Pirates Icom 735 Production Run Jeremiah O'Brien MARS Radio System Mailing List Mobile Radio in Dodge Caravan? Wanted, Kenwood RZ-1 mods WANTED:KDKFM-2030 Mic Yaesu ft530 vco tune up Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 9 Aug 1994 14:36:40 GMT From: newsgw.mentorg.com!srp!jbate@uunet.uu.net Subject: [Q] 10-10 info needed in 4 area To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I participated in a part of the 10-10 contest last weekend and found it to be exciting, not just in the contest but also ragchewing with the others. I was able to make 6 states and 2 countries on 10 meters (not very good I admit but time was a limiting factor). I would like to join the 10-10 club. I need to send my 10-10 log to the area 4 coordinator but don't know who it is. I would appreciate any other into that you might have to pass along as well. 73's john (ki7hs/4) ------------------------------ Date: 6 Aug 1994 18:31:07 GMT From: news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!dmm@uunet.uu.net Subject: Any recent Group A call signs in ITU region 7? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Has anyone in in ITU region 7 ungraded to Amateur Extra class recently and gotten a Group A (one-by-two or two-by-one; four-character) call sign? If so, please email me, dmm@indirect.com. Thanks, Doug, KC7DNV ------------------------------ Date: 5 Aug 1994 18:48:26 GMT From: ftpbox!mothost!delphinium.cig.mot.com!rtsg.mot.com!maenpaj@uunet.uu.net Subject: Cost of a KHz? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu How much do you think a 1 KHz slice of spectrum would cost you? The re- sults of the first FCC auction for RF spectrum were summarized in Comm- unications Week Magazine. Ten nationwide licenses were awarded to six paging companies. These mobile licenses were sold in the first auction of RF spectrum. The companies plan to offer a new generation of data messaging and digital paging services. Company Cost License Information ========================== =============== =========================== Paging Network of Virginia $117 Million Three 50 KHz licenses KDM Messaging Co. $160 Million 2 paired 50 KHz licenses Nationwide Wireless Network $ 80 Million 1 paired 50 KHz license $ 47.5 M Paired 50/12.5 KHz license Bell South Wireless $ 47.5 M Paired 50/12.5 KHz license AirTouch Paging $ 47 Million Paired 50/12.5 KHz license Pagemart II, Inc. $ 38 Million 50 KHz unpaired license Source: Communications Week, August 1, 1994, page 3. Hmmmm....le'see now, in the KDM case above that's 2 X 50 KHz pairs for a total of 200 KHz of RF spectrum. $160 Million / 200 KHz = $800 per KHz. I guess a 3 KHz wide SSB channel will cost me $2400!! Hmmmm...le'see now, mebee I can buy 14.313 MHz + or -. Mebee I could get a discount on 14.313 with all of the undesirables driving down property values. Now the CW vs. Fone crowd will have some hard numbers to argue about. Not only does CW save spectrum but it costs less as well. John Maenpaa WB9JEJ WB9JEJ @ W9ZMR.IL.USA.NOAM maenpaj@rtsg.mot.com (Standard disclaimer: My comments only) ------------------------------ Date: 5 Aug 1994 19:27:22 GMT From: ftpbox!mothost!delphinium.cig.mot.com!rtsg.mot.com!maenpaj@uunet.uu.net Subject: Cost of KHz? (re-visited) To: info-hams@ucsd.edu My buddy in the next cube just pointed out that I was off by a factor of 1000 in my cost per KHz calculation: > Hmmmm....le'see now, in the KDM case above that's 2 X 50 KHz pairs for a > total of 200 KHz of RF spectrum. $160 Million / 200 KHz = $800 per KHz. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This should be $800 per Hz!! A KHz costs $800,000 I guess a 3 KHz wide SSB channel will cost me $2,400,000!! I stand corrected and am heading to the store for new calculator batteries. John Maenpaa WB9JEJ WB9JEJ @ W9ZMR.IL.USA.NOAM maenpaj@rtsg.mot.com (Standard disclaimer: My comments only) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 13:57:00 -0500 From: iat.holonet.net!wwswinc!steve.silverwood@uunet.uu.net Subject: Ham Software Pirates To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References: <edh.775848997@hpuerca> Ed: > Maybe I'm wierd, but I even register shareware games my kids pick up and > use (if they try it and trash it, the shareware company failed to make a > "sell"). And if I'm trying out some piece of shareware and its "time" > expires before catching my continuing interest, I del the thing from my > hard disk: I haven't got space to waste with stuff I'm not using! I don't think you're weird -- if you are, then so am I because I share the same philosophy! //Steve// +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Steve Silverwood [KB6OJS/2] | CompuServe: 76703,3035 | | Computer Associates | GEnie: S.SILVERWOOD | | One Computer Associates Plaza | Internet: 76703.3035@compuserve.com | | Islandia, NY 11788-7000 | Prodigy: XBHU98A | | (516)CALL-CAI (225-5224) | FAX: (516)342-6861 | +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ * RM 1.4 B0021 * Please wait... Sysop has exited to DOS... ------------------------------ Date: 9 Aug 1994 13:36:10 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!ucssun1!palsson@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Icom 735 Production Run To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I heard recently that the Icom 735 has been in continuous production longer than any other currently manufactured rig. This raises a few questions: 1. Is it true? 2. How many years? 3. Is this a record? -- Jerry Palsson AA6KI palsson@ucssun1.sdsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:51:45 GMT From: netcomsv!netcom.com!netcom11!faunt@decwrl.dec.com Subject: Jeremiah O'Brien To: info-hams@ucsd.edu The new information on the Jeremiah O'Brien is that it's in Portland, Maine, where she was built. She should be there another week, and then will proceed down the East Coast with stops at Baltimore, Jacksonville and Miami. If you visit her, try to get the radio ops to set up a schedule for CW operations in the ham bands for general contacts. 73, doug ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 21:31:26 -0600 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!newshub.sdsu.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!pschleck@network.ucsd.edu Subject: MARS Radio System Mailing List To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Welcome! You have joined the MARS-list@stat.com The purpose of this server is to allow discussion about MARS (Military Affiliated Radio Service) activities. The list is open to all branches of MARS. ---- To Send Mail To Be Distributed To All Subscribers: mars-list@stat.com And Send Normal Subject And Text. ---- To Add Yourself To This List, Please Send Electronic Mail To: listserv@stat.com And Include The Command: subscribe mars-list As The First Line of Your Message. ---- To Remove Yourself From This Server, Please Send Electronic Mail To: listserv@stat.com And Include The Command: Unsubscribe mars-list As The First Line of Your Message. ---- ---- Requests For Help Should Be Sent To: mars-list-request@stat.com --- Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-1165 Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 18:26:48 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.ans.net!sitka.wsipc.wednet.edu!egreen!egreen!jmollan@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Mobile Radio in Dodge Caravan? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I have moounted my rig overhead between the front seats on my Chevy van. It's easy to reach and doesn't take any leg room. I use a Larsen glass mount on the side window behing the driver's seat. Power cord is just run to the lighter. 73, John AE7P ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 04:17:52 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!csus.edu!netcom.com!mpage@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Wanted, Kenwood RZ-1 mods To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Todd Wilburn (toddw@connected.com) wrote: : Tom WB7ASR (tom_boza@ccm.hf.intel.com) wrote: : : Does anyone have "any" mods for the Kenwood RZ-1 scanner? : : If so, I would appreicate copies of them. : try FTP oak.oakland.edu : /pub/hamradio/mods/kenwood : The RZ-1 might be there...It's a good source of mods Tom, if you find any mods that are worthwhile, let me know, too. I have 2 RZ-1's and they are great. I would buy any used one I could find. 73 Tom KI6BL -- ==================================================================== Thomas J. Kravitz, Box 1307, Culver City, CA 90232 310-838-1436 MEDIA PAGE Internet: mpage@netcom.com Breaking Stories to the CIS: 71674,1610 News Media since 1978 ==================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: 8 Aug 1994 22:44:26 GMT From: eng.iac.honeywell.com!ws08.iac.honeywell.com!dphillips@uunet.uu.net Subject: WANTED:KDKFM-2030 Mic To: info-hams@ucsd.edu WANTED:KDK FM-2030 Mic. Need not be in wonderful condition. I have one that the PTT button is broken on. I would even take a whole radio for some $$ if you have one that is broke or just needs a new home. -- Dave Phillips | "Takeoffs are optional, Phoenix, AZ, USA | Landings are mandatory, dphillips@WS07.iac.honeywell.com | Pilot error is not an accident, KB7JS | All airplanes have personalities." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 04:06:01 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!milcom@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Yaesu ft530 vco tune up To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Jerry B Altzman (jbaltz@namaste.cc.columbia.edu) wrote: : You mean, it doesn't cover the entire 438-450 MHz band as advertised? Or you : want it to transmit out-of-band, illegally (CAP doesn't work on UHF yet, : don't know about MARS)? I have a friend with a commercial repeater on a splinter. It would be nice to be able to carry one radio to access to both amatuer & commercial repeaters. My 530 only transmits up to 462. It would be nice also to use it as a GMRS radio. And dont give me any of this type acceptance BS. I've checked the thing on HP spectrum analyzers. I sit next to a 8568B for eight hours a day. (barf) -- POP: Persistant Online Procrastination milcom@netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:31:07 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <linleyCu7266.7t4@netcom.com>, <Anthony_Pelliccio-070894234007@tonto-slip15.cis.brown.edu>, <1994Aug8.143841.1@vax.sonoma.edu>│╖ Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject : Re: 2m/11m crossband QSO: legal? In article <1994Aug8.143841.1@vax.sonoma.edu> harrisok@vax.sonoma.edu writes: >In article <Anthony_Pelliccio-070894234007@tonto-slip15.cis.brown.edu>, Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) writes: >> My dad is in Florida and I've been trying to get him to go for his first >> license for some time now, to no avail. > >Yeah... Why is it we just can't seem to get our fathers to get their license? >I, too, have been trying for a few years now and all he can seem to do is point >out how much the initial startup costs might be. Of course, he has an >expensive CB and base antenna, lots of photography, prospecting, hunting, >camping, diving equipment... Maybe he just doesn't have time. :-) More likely he's afraid he'll embarrass himself on the test. My uncle is the same way about lots of new things. He claimed he didn't have a VCR because they're too expensive. When I bought him one, he admitted that the real reason was he was afraid he couldn't learn to program it. I left it with him, and six months later he's taping, editing, and using that thing in ways *I* haven't figured out how to do. :-) The moral is, if you want them to take up amateur radio, you've got to let them work themselves into it at their own pace and in their own way. Buy them a radio and hook it up for them. Give them a copy of "Now You're Talking", and *back off*. With no pressure, they'll play with it and figure out that they *can* do it. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 02:26:38 GMT From: news.acns.nwu.edu!news.eecs.nwu.edu!psuvax1!news.pop.psu.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <CtyJxs.GzI@world.std.com>, <hY2zz-0.brunelli_pc@delphi.com>, <31tiq4$3ep@wizard.uark.edu>net Subject : Re: .52 beacon legal? (was: Amateur Radio Newsline #885 31 Jul 94) Peter Laws (plaws@comp..uark.edu) wrote: : brunelli_pc@delphi.com writes: : >David R Tucker <drt@world.std.com> writes: : > : >>I was under the impression that automatically controlled beacons on 2 : >>meters were restricted to 144.275-144.300 (97.203d). How, then, can : >>this be legal? And anyway, does continuous MCW on the National : >>Simplex Frequency, even locally, qualify as good practice? : > : > : >Here Here! : >I found this very disturbing as well, and i thought that : >it showed baltant disregard for the band plan. 146.52 : What was really sad, IMHO, was that no one on our local net caught it! (I : would have commented, but my QTH is in a hill shadow from the repeater) : Refresh my memory: Is it *illegal* or just poor operating practise : (clearly, it's the latter). No, it seems clear now that it's illegal as well. -drt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |David R. Tucker KG2S 8P9CL drt@world.std.com| ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: 8 Aug 1994 09:09:34 -0700 From: galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!dancer.ca.sandia.gov!cronkite.nersc.gov!fastrac.llnl.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!apple.com!apple.com!@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <CtvuG5.DIy@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <slayCtwuq3.4s9@netcom.com>, <1994Aug4.204024.24674@walter.cray.com>le.com Subject : Re: What to do with old OST's wws@renaissance.cray.com (Walter Spector) writes: >Our local library carries a few years of back issues of QST as well. >I suspect they have a similar policy. >Walt >---- >Walt Spector "Today is the dawn of a new age, >(wws@renaissance.cray.com) if only (click!)" >Sunnyvale, California The Biederbecke Affair Walt, if it is the Sunnyvale library you are talking about, they have semi-annual bound volumes back to the 40s, I think. And fiches for the era before that. The last time I used that service was maybe two years ago. Maybe they have changed since... They won't let you take the bound periodicals home... The Sunnyvale library is probably a little unusual. Take a look at the zip code statistics in the U.S. callbook for the zips which begin with 940. 73 Kok Chen, AA6TY kchen@apple.com Apple Computer, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 14:42:13 GMT From: world!dts@uunet.uu.net To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <31r3b6$okv@news.iastate.edu>, <bentti-040894154150@m32011.esl.com>, <1994Aug5.112003.15599@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>.ch Subject : Re: Technician No Code In article <1994Aug5.112003.15599@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman <gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> wrote: >In article <bentti-040894154150@m32011.esl.com> bentti@pebbles.esl.com (Davin Bentti) writes: >> >>[*snip*] >>Warning: The following are the words of a newbie... :-) >> >>But can't I get my NCT passed and while my documents are on the way study >>for >>the Morse Code? I thought I read I can take the 5wpm test _any_ time after >>I passed the NCT test. That way I thought I could get involved with ham >>radio sooner, and expand as my skills grow. Just because I take the NCT >>dosn't _limit_ me from moving up, right? > >That's correct. The only consideration is that the FCC doesn't want more >than one license application per applicant in the pipeline at once. That >won't be an issue in upgrading from Tech to Tech Plus since all you need >is the CSCE from the VE. But if you upgrade to General, you should wait >until you get your Tech license before sending in the General paperwork. >The VEC will normally hold your application in this case. > >Gary Actually, there is now an official Tech Plus license being generated by the FCC, so that's no longer a special case. Regardless, there is NO reason to delay taking any tests, and you should NEVER need to check the "application already in the works" box on the form 610 unless you have directly sent a form to the FCC (change of address or renewal, for example). The VEC will take care of holding the paperwork for subsequent upgrades and will work with you (they need a copy of the paperwork you get from the FCC -- your license with the upgrades to date shown) to process the subsequent upgrade. By all means go and take tests when you are ready, and sign /AG or /AA or /AE as required and enjoy getting on the air. No reason to delay operating just because some paperwork might take a few months to get completed... Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Senie Internet: dts@world.std.com Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@world.std.com 508-779-0439 Compuserve: 74176,1347 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 12:20:57 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <3253la$lnl@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>, <3255ar$o38@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>, <325tks$3mp@crl3.crl.com> Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject : Re: Help! How to Improve my CW Speed? In article <325tks$3mp@crl3.crl.com> hbs@crl.com (Henry B. Smith) writes: > >I would like to add one more tidbit of advice. > >Sometimes, when I am copying "in the head", it helps to visualize the words >appearing in front of my eyes. (I have designated this as the >"Gary Coffman Human Modem Technique" :-) Thanks, I think. That method doesn't work for me. I understand that some people's imaginations are strongly visual and that they can picture a blackboard in their mind and see the letters appear on it. I can't even visualize the blackboard. Other people claim they see the words floating across their minds. I guess I'm not good at visualization because that doesn't work either. For people who can "picture" things in their heads, it may be a good technique to try. For the rest of us, there is another way to get letter perfect high speed copy. That's by using a keyboard for copy. Most people have no trouble typing 60 WPM, many are much faster. I do about 120 WPM on the keyboard. This get's around the pencil and paper plateau where you simply can't get the letters down as fast as they are coming in. Press wireless operators, and military intercept operators, are trained to copy this way. In WWII, non-English speakers who didn't even know how to read were trained in this method and copied thousands of messages error free without understanding a single word. The trick to this method is to simply condition the subconscious to automatically activate the correct finger to hit the right key when the ear hears the letter sound. No conscious input should be allowed to interfere because it just slows the process down. You do this by drill, just the same way you learned to touch type. I have an old friend who was an intercept operator in WWII and a press wireless operator before that. This is the way he was trained to copy, and it's amazing to watch him do it. He can carry on a conversation with you while he's copying and never miss a letter of the incoming message. He actually has to roll the paper up to see what he copied. His conscious mind is totally uncoupled from the process. He says he can copy 60 WPM 5 letter groups for hour after hour with this method. Now *that's* what I call a real human modem. I use a different method that works for me. I just scratch down the dots and dashes, using a shorthand stroke format I developed, and sight read the resulting text. I can read that shorthand as easily as I read normal alphabetic text. This is the way Sammy Morse originally did it, except he used a machine to make the marks while I do it by hand to meet legal requirements for the tests. Of course it isn't terribly fast. In normal operating, I let a machine do it too. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #889 ******************************